Hi Daniel,

They both came off the same camera model so should be the same. I finally found the specs for hfov and they're 120 rather than 122. Not sure if that 2deg difference is enough to cause a problem.

Will check lighting when home too, thanks for the tips!

Keegan

2 months later

Hi Folks, I had to take care of some other projects and I'm just picking this back up. Could I ask if the 3xar0234 branch is still the best one to follow for multi-cam calibration please? I see there has been a new release since I looked at this last and wanted to check there isn't some kind of new Easy Mode you've added! 😅

  • erik replied to this.

    Hi kneave ,
    For calibration, I believe the modular-calibration branch (PR here) would be the best to follow, as it will also be used for calibrating OAK-D-LR (which have 3x ar0234). Thoughts?
    Thanks, Erik

    I'll have a look, thanks. Just to complicate matters I've an oak-ffc-imx378 I'm hoping to use for the centre camera now. I've not been able to get it to be detected by the 3P yet which is annoying but it's been that long since I've looked at this I've likely forgotten a trick needed. That or the one USB cable I have that works reliably has gone AWOL 😅

      kneave is it the case that only FFC-IMX378 isn't being recognized, while other cameras are? If so, then it's not an USB issue. I would also suggest using latest depthai version.
      Thanks, Erik

        erik It's a bit random at the minute, it's sometimes saying no cameras detected but as it's getting that response it at least means it's connected to the 3P and able to get a response back. I'm currently printing a new enclosure, once I've got everything in place I'll do some more tests.

        Quick render of the new enclosure attached, it'll be 3d printed so not quite as shiny! You can see the centre camera hidden in the black separator between the eyes, I'm keen to make it look like he only has two as much as possible.

          Hi kneave ,
          Could you copy the full terminal log of cam_test script, please? If it doesn't work as expected we will send a replacement unit. The render looks dope!! Please let us know how it will turn out🙂
          Thanks, Erik

          Sure thing, does it matter which branch I run cam-test from or can I install the production libraries and run against them?

          Ok, I've done a lot of digging and should really be in bed but I may have stumbled upon something in this issues;
          https://github.com/luxonis/depthai-hardware/issues/292

          Current configuration is:
          Left: AR0234
          Centre: IMX378
          Right: AR0234

          I have a simple camera preview script which I've successfully used to focus the cameras in the past, it has this line that lists all the cameras:

          with dai.Device(pipeline) as device:
              print('Connected cameras: ', device.getConnectedCameras())

          First off, I ran this against the develop branch of depthai, making sure to run ./install_requirements.py:

          I then switch to the ar0234_x3 branch which is the only one I've been able to get the cameras working on in the past:

          This shows that the two AR0234 are detected, if I replace the center with the other AR0234 I have it is detected too and I'm able to preview from all three.

          This made me wonder about the IMX378 which led me to the issue I linked above. Taking a macro photo of the board it looks like it does indeed have the K28 power regulator on board and it also has all the pins connected, I'm starting to think I have one of the broken ones?

          Could I cut the problem pin and see if it works or having plugged it in would it have damaged it? I don't want to do any mods that may prevent a warranty claim but if all I need to so is cut that pin then it could be an easy win?

          • erik replied to this.

            Hi kneave ,
            Yes, you are right, you have the bad board - we apologize for the inconvenience. Full Errata here. We can either send a replacement, or you could try to fix it locally.
            Thanks, Erik

              Success! Kinda...

              If I run on the Main branch I can get cam_test to run and show the IMX378 camera but the two AR0234 cameras aren't detected. If I run on the ar0234x3 branch I can see all three cameras in my preview.py script however cam_test.py won't run as it doesn't recognise THE_1200_P as a valid resolution.

              I also tried the modular-calibration branch however I couldn't run install_requirements.py as it failed with the following error:
              ERROR: Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement depthai==2.19.1.0.dev+1eb01248fb7e994b51ceec91984bff46e0a5d5f2

              I suspect my combination of cameras is throwing things off slighting and that the IMX378 is supported on one branch and the AR0234 on another but not both together maybe? Either that or depthai_python just doesn't have an updated version of cam_test?

              I'm once again a little lost to be honest, if you know of a branch that has success with this camera combo could you point me towards it please?

              • erik replied to this.

                Hi kneave ,
                Looks like we didn't update requirements.txt. I just updated it on that branch (to 2.20.2), so it should work as expected - could you try again, please?
                Thanks, Erik

                Hi Eric,

                To confirm, I'm now on the following branches for:
                depthai: modular-calibration (Your commit 30 minutes ago)
                depthai-python: main (for cam-test.py in utilities, latest commit)

                I ran `install-requirements.py' from the root of depthai and the utilities folder of depthai-python.

                When I run cam_test.py I only see the IMX378, it comes up in the preview window quite happily and the console reports this:

                Enabled cameras:
                    rgb : color
                   left : color
                  right : color
                DepthAI version: 2.20.2.0
                DepthAI path: C:\Users\keegan\AppData\Local\Packages\PythonSoftwareFoundation.Python.3.9_qbz5n2kfra8p0\LocalCache\local-packages\Python39\site-packages\depthai.cp39-win_amd64.pyd
                [184430105182410E00] [1.5] [0.865] [ColorCamera(6)] [error] Camera not detected on socket: 2
                [184430105182410E00] [1.5] [0.866] [ColorCamera(4)] [error] Camera not detected on socket: 1
                Connected cameras:
                 -socket RGB   : IMX378 4056 x 3040 focus:auto  - COLOR
                USB speed: SUPER
                IR drivers: []
                Cam:      rgb           left          right    [host | capture timestamp]
                FPS:  30.00| 30.00   0.00|  0.00   0.00|  0.00

                If I switch to the ar0234x3 branch the cam_test.py script doesn't run as it looks as though there was a bit refactor that deprecated or changed a lot of the methods in depthai between then and 2.20.

                It looks as though if I try and run with any version of depthai other than depthai==2.17.2.0.dev+211dc1c0a135d5615dba75ebf2098ba8cdc05cd0 it isn't able to see the AR0234 cameras. If I look at the depthai-python branch it looks as though ar0234x3 was never merged in to any other branch either.

                I may be misreading the commit graph, I've been digging between branches for a while now and I've lost track, but is the AR0234 supported on either main or develop of depthai-python? To me it looks like it isn't and that it's only that old 2.17 branch that it's available in.

                I'm once again trying to calibrate against the AR0234x3 branch as it seems to be the only one that supports all my cameras, this time all new errors. Before I start digging even further and spending more time on this can I get a yes/no answer to the following please?

                Has the combination of 2x AR0234 and single IMX378 been tested by yourselves or anyone else that you know of?

                Right now I've no idea if this newest issue will be the last one and I can get passed it and do the actual work I want to with these cameras, or if this is the tip of an iceberg and there will be yet more work to do afterwards.

                I understand that what I'm doing isn't simple and that the majority of your customers just use the standard integrated and tested cameras. I also understand that these things can take time, but right now I have an awful lot of unknowns and other projects I need to work on. If I know that this has worked for others I can continue, if I'm on my own with a new and untested combination I may have to shelve this project until the 3P has better support for multi-cameras.

                If you could let me know if the light at the end of the tunnel is sunlight or an oncoming train, I would greatly appreciate it. 🤣

                It's looking like the issue was with the image preview. The AR0234 output at 1200p and the IMX378 wants to output at 1080p/4k.

                I'm thinking if ignoring the centre camera for now and just trying to get the depth camera working. I think that the difference between HFOV of the centre and side cameras is too great for calibrating together. At least with the side cameras being rgb I should still be able to get a coloured point cloud. Hopefully I'll be able to use the centre camera independently, I'll have to have a play around with it at some point.

                • erik replied to this.

                  Hi kneave

                  Has the combination of 2x AR0234 and single IMX378 been tested by yourselves or anyone else that you know of?

                  No, we have only tried our "standard" configuration, which is 2x OV9x82 for stereo and IMX214/IMX378 for color camera. Any other configuration (like yours) has likely not been tested, but should likely work, perhaps with some modifications, like to calibration script. If streaming 3 camera sources (cam_test) doesn't work with latest develop branch, please open an issue on depthai-core.
                  Thanks, Erik

                  Done: Issue 763

                  I included the preview.py script I've been using to list and preview the cameras, if nothing else it's really handy for manually checking the focus of the cameras.

                  Apparently this combo of cameras should work but the config file on the 3P may now be in a bad state prevent calibration from working. I've tried running the factory_reset script and it just says the factory calibration isn't present, I've no idea where to find an empty one either. If you could point me towards one I'd greatly appreciate it, I'm worried that if it's this difficult to get the camera calibrated that it'll be impossible to do anything else with it.