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  • How to update outdated OAK-D Pro PoE firmware

Hey @jakaskerl, thanks for being patient with this

To give you a better overview of how our camera / architecture is setup, here is a diagram

Our server is connected to the cameras via two switches, one switch has all 1000mbps ports fully utilized by the Oak Cameras, it extends to another switch via 1000Base SFP module, the other switch is also rated for 1000Mbps

See details of both switches here:

The power should be sufficient according to the calculations that we did.

As mentioned we are only actually using 13 cameras actively but the rest will still be consuming power, just not in use as it is not connected to. ( we may try to disconnect them and see if it improves the situation)

This issue only appears on boot and seems to happen more when we connect to 10 or more cameras simultaneously. Usually one or two cameras will have their ping missed.

However, in the off chance that all cameras successfully connect and boot the pipeline, the cameras are able to run for few days non-stop without interruption.

Here are some crash logs. I'd love to update files, but somehow the forum doesn't allow a json not zip file attachment

Crash Dump 1

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    jakaskerl

    syg's colleague here, the gpu server has a 1Gbps rated port, everything else sharing the port also should not be using much bandwidth as confirmed by iftop.

    we'll do another test by connecting the gpu server directly to the 24 port switch by disconnecting some of the backup cameras.

    On an unrelated question, we've followed the depthai guide on syncing frames from multiple streams, however we discovered some skipping in videos recorded (people and objects moving across frames much faster than 5fps). Could bandwidth issues be causing this too?

      Hi hotd
      Yes, that could be the culprit.

      The reason why is when the bandwidth is saturated, the frames from the cameras get dropped when not read in time.
      The would mean there are less frames than the set framerate expects for proper playback, so the end videos look like they have been sped up.

      ps. when recording, make sure the CPU and disk is fast enough for real time writing. If host side loop is blocked for too long, the same thing could happen. In this case the PC would be the bottleneck.

      Thanks,
      Jaka

      • hotd replied to this.

        jakaskerl

        Is there a more systematic way to tell if there are any power or bandwidth or frame dropping issues without having to observe through the side effects?

        Currently our server is quite powerful and handling this should not actually be an issue, the server is currently not doing anything other than streaming frames from the camera and recording them into video files

          hotd
          You could check the sequence numbers of messages when they arrive to the host side. If the numbers don't increment, it's likely some frames are dropped.

          An update, we’re still facing some issues with the cameras having connection issues, and dropped frames from the videos. 

          Here are some of the things we’ve tried to reduce the bandwidth saturation:

          1. Disconnecting the backup cameras (13) from the main switch (24 port), this is ensure that the connected backup cameras aren’t saturating the bandwidth from the active cameras (11)

          2. Have a direct connection between the GPU server & the main switch (24 port) instead of going through the 5 port switch. This is to reduce the bandwidth saturation on the 5 port switch as it’s used to connect between the main switch & our file server

          However, upon booting our application the camera ping isn’t resolved. Out of the 13 cameras, only 7 ~ 10 cameras managed to successfully start. So for now we’ve updated our configuration on only support 10 and it seems to work but we’d still need to restart a few times before the cameras manages to connect.

          We’d like to schedule a call with  @jakaskerl & @erik to share more details in order to better troubleshoot we’re facing, let us know what’s required to make this happen.

          Hi @syg , could you also share the MRE that leads to failed connects after you connect >10 devices to POE switch, so we can test it locally? I'd also suggest Standalone mode as an alternative, as there's no XLink disconnects (because there's no XLink). In general, live debugging over call isn't very fruitful.

          Hey @erik, thanks for the prompt reply.

          I want to clarify does MRE mean Minimum Reproducible Example? If so, I'd have to discuss with my colleague on how to come up with one.

          Additionally, the call I've mentioned isn't to perform a live debugging on our system rather it's us providing you guys a more comprehensive overview of our architecture and specs of our server, network switches etc.

          We're hoping that with a much more complete overview it's much easier to point out any potential setup or flaws in our system

            syg I want to clarify does MRE mean Minimum Reproducible Example? If so, I'd have to discuss with my colleague on how to come up with one.

            Yes.

            17 days later

            Hey @erik @jakaskerl ,

            Some updates on our end.

            Currently, we are actively using 13 cameras and we’re still facing the issue of ping was missed at two points of our docker application:

            1. When we are starting our docker application.

            2. In the middle of the week

              1. As our solution is deployed on prem, we check on it every week. During our checks we discovered that a few cameras had ping was missed which cause our docker application to hang

              2. As an example, we started our docker service at 07/10/2024 and the ping was missed showed up at 09/10/2024 causing our service to hang

            Here are some troubleshooting steps we’ve tried:

            We’ve used a few scripts from your repository for us to obtain some metrics, this enabled us to benchmark against the desired result shown below:

            Benchmark

            Scripts

            Poe Link test result

            Here’s a sample result of a few cameras

            # Cam 1
            Connecting to  10.0.0.11 ...
            mxid: 184430101110E8F400 (OK)
            speed: 1000 (OK)
            full duplex: 1 (OK)
            boot mode: 3 (OK)
            
            # Cam 3
            Connecting to  10.0.0.13 ...
            mxid: 18443010F16EE6F400 (OK)
            speed: 1000 (OK)
            full duplex: 1 (OK)
            boot mode: 3 (OK)
            
            # Cam 6
            Connecting to  10.0.0.16 ...
            mxid: 18443010517BE7F400 (OK)
            speed: 1000 (OK)
            full duplex: 1 (OK)
            boot mode: 3 (OK)

            As seen, our link test managed to hit the benchmark which requires a speed of 1000 Mbps

            OAK bandwidth test result

            Here’s a sample result of a few camera:

            # Cam 1
            Downlink 883.4 mbps
            Uplink 219.4 mbps
            
            # Cam 3
            Downlink 890.0 mbps
            Uplink 218.3 mbps
            
            # Cam 6
            Downlink 890.6 mbps
            Uplink 218.4 mbps

            As seen, our downlink and uplink are within the acceptable range of 800 Mbps uplink & 200 Mbps downlink

            OAK Latency test

            Here’s a sample result of a few cameras:

            # Cam 1
            Average latency 2.48 ms, Std: 0.4
            
            # Cam 3
            Average latency 2.73 ms, Std: 0.3
            
            # Cam 6
            Average latency 3.06 ms, Std: 0.3

            As seen, our average latency across the camera is less than 10ms which is required to pass the benchmark

            After running the test, we can conclude that we’re not limited by our network equipment as the resulting latency, bandwidth and link speed are within the benchmark range stated above.

            Additionally, we can confirm that enough power is supplied to the cameras based on the following

            As seen from the image, each port can deliver up to 30W to the cameras and each of it is only consuming up to 4~5W which is sufficient for the cameras to function

            CPU Usage of cameras

            To ensure that our pipeline isn’t too complex which can cause a high CPU usage of the LeonOS and potentially lead to a ping was missed error, we’ve enabled logging on our setup through DEPTHAI_LEVEL=info to observe the CPU usage.

            The result shows that our pipeline is only consuming up to 12% of the CPU . Proving that our pipeline isn’t complex enough to cause a high CPU usage.

            Allowing longer boot time for the cameras

            On the debugging guide, a section indicates that some network equipment might not work well with the default timeout they’ve set.

            To ensure that there’s enough time for the camera to boot & the watchdog doesn’t disconnect too early, we’ve introduced two environment variables:

            • DEPTHAI_BOOTUP_TIMEOUT

            • DEPTHAI_WATCHDOG_INITIAL_DELAY

            And set it’s value to 60000 (60s), allowing more time for camera to ping the server.

            However, this didn’t work as ping was missed error still occured upon boot

            Additional Context

            Based on our above troubleshooting steps, we’re still facing the ping was missed issue. Hence, we’re providing our hardware architecture to provide a better overview of our setup

            Lastly, here’s a Minimal Reproducible Example (MRE) that you guys can run on your end to simulate our environment:

            import os
            import re
            import cv2
            import math
            import time
            import yaml
            import numpy as np
            import socket
            #os.environ["DEPTHAI_LEVEL"] = "debug"
            import depthai as dai
            from collections import deque
            from threading import Thread
            from datetime import datetime, timedelta
            from loguru import logger
            from typing import List, Any
            from pydantic import BaseModel
            
            
            
            class Frame(BaseModel):
                has_rgb: bool
                has_depth: bool
                rgb_frame: Any = None
                depth_frame: Any = None
                timestamp: timedelta 
            
            class OakDProPOE(Thread):
            
                def __init__(
                    self,
                    buffer: deque,
                    mxid: str,
                    server_ip: str,
                    server_port: int,
                    fps: int = 30,
                ):
                    super().__init__()
                    self.fps = fps
                    self.buffer = buffer
                    self.recording = False
                    self.ip = server_ip
                    self.port = server_port
                    self.mxid = mxid
                    self.info = self.lookup_camera(mxid)
                    self.recording = False
                    self.connection: socket.socket = None
            
                def lookup_camera(self, mxid: str):
            
                    for i in range(3):
                        ret, info = dai.Device.getDeviceByMxId(mxid)
                        if ret:
                            self.mxid = mxid
                            return info
                    else:
                        raise Exception(f"{mxid} not found!")
                    
                def start_camera(self):
            
                    self.recording = True
            
                def stop_camera(self):
            
                    if self.connection:
                        self.connection.close()
                    self.recording = False
            
                def poe_pipeline(self):
            
                    logger.info(f"{self.mxid} pipeline initiated")
                    pipeline = dai.Pipeline()
            
                    camRgb = pipeline.createColorCamera()
                    camRgb.setIspScale(2,3)
            
                    videoEnc = pipeline.create(dai.node.VideoEncoder)
                    videoEnc.setDefaultProfilePreset(30, dai.VideoEncoderProperties.Profile.MJPEG)
                    camRgb.video.link(videoEnc.input)
            
                    script = pipeline.create(dai.node.Script)
                    script.setProcessor(dai.ProcessorType.LEON_CSS)
                    videoEnc.bitstream.link(script.inputs['frame'])
            
                    script.setScript(
                        f"""
            HOST_IP = '{self.ip}'
            HOST_PORT = {self.port}
                             
            import socket
            import time
            
            node.warn(f'>Going to connect to {{HOST_IP}}:{{HOST_PORT}}<')
            sock = socket.socket()
            sock.connect((HOST_IP, HOST_PORT))
            
            while True:
            
                pck = node.io["frame"].get()
                data = pck.getData()
                ts = pck.getTimestamp()
                header = f"ABCDE " + str(ts.total_seconds()).ljust(18) + str(len(data)).ljust(8)
                sock.send(bytes(header, encoding='ascii'))
                sock.send(data)
            """
                    )
                    logger.info(self.mxid)
                    device_info = dai.DeviceInfo(self.mxid)
                    logger.info(device_info)
            
                    try:
            
                        with dai.Device(pipeline, device_info) as device:
                            logger.info(f"Pipeline running on {self.mxid}")
                            while True:
                                time.sleep(1)
            
                    except Exception as e:
                        logger.error(e)
                        raise
            
                def run(self):
            
                    def get_frame(socket, size):
                        bytes = socket.recv(4096)
                        while True:
                            read = 4096
                            if size - len(bytes) < read:
                                read = size - len(bytes)
                            bytes += socket.recv(read)
                            if size == len(bytes):
                                return bytes
            
                    server = socket.socket(socket.AF_INET, socket.SOCK_STREAM)
                    server.bind(("0.0.0.0", self.port))
            
                    cam_thread = Thread(target=self.poe_pipeline)
                    cam_thread.daemon = True
                    logger.info("Pipeline started")
            
                    server.listen()
            
                    logger.info("Starting cam thread")
                    cam_thread.start()
                    self.connection, client = server.accept()
                    try:
                        logger.info(f"{self.mxid} connected")
                        while self.recording:
                            header = str(self.connection.recv(32), encoding="ascii")
                            chunks = re.split(" +", header)
                            if chunks[0] == "ABCDE":
                                # print(f">{header}<")
                                ts = float(chunks[1])
                                imgSize = int(chunks[2])
                                img = get_frame(self.connection, imgSize)
                                buf = np.frombuffer(img, dtype=np.byte)
                                # print(buf.shape, buf.size)
                                frame = cv2.imdecode(buf, cv2.IMREAD_COLOR)
            
                                frame = Frame(
                                    has_rgb=True,
                                    has_depth=True,
                                    rgb_frame=cv2.cvtColor(frame, cv2.COLOR_BGR2RGB),
                                    depth_frame=None,
                                    timestamp=timedelta(seconds=ts),
                                )
            
                                self.buffer.append(frame)
            
                    except Exception as e:
                        # TODO: Handle Server Error
                        logger.error(f"{self.mxid}: " + str(e))
                        raise
            
                    server.close()
            
            
            class Controller:
            
            
                def __init__(self, yaml_file: str, fps: int, server_ip: str):
            
                    self.fps = fps
                    self.sync_threshold = timedelta(milliseconds=math.ceil(5000 / self.fps))
                    self.server_ip = server_ip
                    self.load_camera_mapping_file(yaml_file)
                
                def load_camera_mapping_file(self, yaml_file):
            
                    logger.info(f"Controller reading yaml file: {yaml_file}")
                    with open(yaml_file) as f:
                        self.camera_mapping = yaml.load(f, Loader=yaml.FullLoader)
            
                    # Display the yaml config
                    logger.info(
                        yaml.dump(self.camera_mapping, default_flow_style=False, sort_keys=False)
                    )
            
                    camera_type = self.camera_mapping["CameraType"]
            
                    self.active_cameras = {}
                    for cam in self.camera_mapping["ActiveCameras"]:
                        # Create a buffer for the camera
                        buffer = deque([], maxlen=self.fps * 50) # buffer holds up to 10 seconds worth of frames
                        main_camera_key = cam["main_camera"]["camera_id"]
            
                        if camera_type == "OakDProPoE":
                            main_camera = OakDProPOE(
                                fps=self.fps,
                                buffer=buffer,
                                mxid=cam["main_camera"]["mxid"],
                                server_ip=self.server_ip,
                                server_port=cam["main_camera"]["server_port"],
                            )
            
            
                        else:
                            raise Exception(f"Camera type {camera_type} is invalid!")
                        
                        self.active_cameras[main_camera_key] = {
                            "buffer": buffer,
                            "synced_buffer": deque([], maxlen=500),
                            "main_camera": main_camera,
                        }
            
                def get_active_cameras(self):
            
                    return self.active_cameras
            
                def start_cameras(self):
            
                    for cam_idx in self.active_cameras:
                        camera = self.active_cameras[cam_idx]["main_camera"]
                        camera.daemon = True
                        camera.start_camera()
                        camera.start()
            
            
                    logger.info("Cameras started")
            
                def stop_cameras(self):
            
                    logger.info("Controller stopping cameras")
            
                    for cam_idx in self.active_cameras:
                        camera = self.active_cameras[cam_idx]["main_camera"]
            
                        camera.stop_camera()
                        camera.join()
            
                    logger.info("Cameras stopped")
            
                def check_sync(self, timestamp: timedelta):
            
                    matching_frame_indexes = []
                    # Try to find matching frame in each queue
                    for active_cam in self.active_cameras.values():
                        for i, frame in enumerate(active_cam["synced_buffer"]):
                            time_diff = abs(frame.timestamp - timestamp)
                            if time_diff <= self.sync_threshold:
                                # We now have the synced frame index for this particular camera
                                matching_frame_indexes.append(i)
                                break
            
                    # When synced frames are found, clear all unused/out-of-sync frames
                    if len(matching_frame_indexes) == len(self.active_cameras):
            
                        for i, q in enumerate(self.active_cameras.values()):
                            for j in range(0, matching_frame_indexes[i]):
                                q["synced_buffer"].popleft()
            
                        return True
            
                    else:
            
                        return False
            
            
                def get_synced_frames(self) -> dict[int, Frame]:
            
                    # Iterate to try and get new frame from any buffer
                    start = time.perf_counter()
                    for cam in self.active_cameras:
            
                        if self.active_cameras[cam]["buffer"]:
                            # Get the frame from camera's buffer to controller's sync buffer
                            # this ensures we can synchronously process the frames in sync buffer without worrying about thread safety from the camera buffer
                            frame = self.active_cameras[cam]["buffer"].popleft()
                            self.active_cameras[cam]["synced_buffer"].append(frame)
                            # Check sync to see if we have a group of synchronized frames across all sync buffers
                            if self.check_sync(frame.timestamp):
            
                                data = {}
                                for cam in self.active_cameras:
                                    data[cam] = self.active_cameras[cam]["synced_buffer"].popleft()
                                logger.debug(f"Sync took {time.perf_counter() - start} seconds")
                                start = time.perf_counter()
                                return data
                            
            
            if __name__ == "__main__":
                
                controller = Controller(
                    yaml_file="configs/camera_mapping_office.yaml",
                    fps=5,
                    server_ip="192.168.1.236"
                )
            
                controller.start_cameras()
            
                while True:
            
                    synced_frame = controller.get_synced_frames()

            To run the MRE you’d need to install the requirements in from the import statement of the file and have a camera-config.yaml file which reflects the configuration of the cameras.

            Here’s how a sample camera camera-config.yaml looks like:

            CameraType: OakDProPoE
            ActiveCameras:
              - main_camera: 
                  camera_id: 25
                  mxid: 18443010117CE9F400
                  server_port: 10025
                backup:
              - main_camera: 
                  camera_id: 26
                  mxid: 18443010D1F3E7F400
                  server_port: 10026
                backup:
              - main_camera: 
                  camera_id: 27
                  mxid: 18443010C1D6E1F400
                  server_port: 10027
                backup:
              - main_camera: 
                  camera_id: 28
                  mxid: 19443010C172801300
                  server_port: 10028
                backup:

            Some notes on the camera-config.yaml

            • On the actual file, it should contain the configuration for 13 cameras

            • camera_id & backup: is not required

            • Each mxid should contain a unique camera mxid

            It’d be filled in at line 303 of mre.py:

            Here’s how a potential directory structure can look like:

            .
            └── (some-folder)/
                ├── mre.py
                ├── camera-config.yaml
                └── requirements.txt

              syg
              Thanks for the thorough investigation. This seems to have checked all probable points of failure. The issue is depthai's overall stability which we can not fix as the issues stem deeper in Intel's FW.

              So I suggest writing a reconnect script that quickly restarts the pipeline in case of missed pings. Simple try-catch would work, but you can make it more sophisticated.
              We have implemented reconnect functionality in V3 as well if you wish to use that when it comes out.

              Thanks,
              Jaka

              Hey @jakaskerl ,

              Thanks for the suggestion.

              As we've provided an MRE, can you take a look at it and point of any flaws / improvement that we can make (other than implementing a reconnect).

              Thanks!

                syg
                The code looks perfectly fine, no redundant code. I'd maybe add a mechanism to make sure all devices are connected to make sure you don't need to restart the script if one device fails to connect for some reason. As for depthai side, I've nothing to add.

                Thanks,
                Jaka

                Thanks for the prompt reply @jakaskerl .

                Is it possible to save the output logs of **DEPTHAI_LEVEL=info **to a file?

                  syg
                  Like done here should work I think:

                  Thanks,
                  Jaka