How can a team deploy and maintain a fleet (20+) OAK-D devices throughout a facility? Would they all necessarily require a dedicated host or could they be corraled into a single server? Could this communication be Ethernet based? Thank you!

@"DrewBarfield"#p1381 Thanks for the interest @"DrewBarfield"#p1381 . So actually our soon-to-be-shipping OAK-D-POE model would perform well for this. It operates standalone, and takes Ethernet for both data (1gbps Ethernet) and power (802.3af). So for 20x OAK-D you could purchase 20x OAK-D-POE (can preorder [here](https://shop.luxonis.com/products/oak-d-poe)) and power them all via say a UniFi 24-port POE switch ([here](https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-switching/products/usw-pro-24)). The estimated ship date for OAK-D-POE is August, but we're hoping to get these out sooner than that. Here are some examples of me running 11 OAK-D-POE (or so) to my computer over my LAN at home: [URL=https://i.imgur.com/KeAFcvF.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/KeAFcvFh.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://i.imgur.com/12gxbzl.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/12gxbzlh.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Note that OAK-D-POE always comes with the enclosure, I'm just testing several without it for expediency. And here's the OAK-D-POE itself: [URL=https://i.imgur.com/xXE90xO.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/xXE90xOh.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://i.imgur.com/FAFt2KC.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/FAFt2KCh.jpg[/IMG][/URL] [URL=https://i.imgur.com/uVeiXJ2.jpg][IMG]https://i.imgur.com/uVeiXJ2h.jpg[/IMG][/URL] Thoughts? Thanks, Brandon

(Just noticed Brandon's reply, I was a few minutes too late:)) Hello @"DrewBarfield"#p1381! For OAK-Ds, you would require host(s) to handle the incoming streams and forward that to the server. There are however other models (embedded, standalone [OAK-D-WIFI and LUX-ESP32](https://docs.luxonis.com/projects/hardware/en/latest/#pure-embedded-design)) that don't need a host machine and have ESP32 on the board. Besides that, we also have [power-over-ethernet (POE) models](https://docs.luxonis.com/projects/hardware/en/latest/#poe-designs) which could be directly connected to the server - I believe this would be the best option for you. POE devices are still in preorder ([link here](https://shop.luxonis.com/collections/poe/products/oak-d-poe)) and should get shipped in August. Thanks, Erik

@"Brandon"#p1383 Wow! That is exactly what I need. Thank you!

@"erik"#p1384 Thanks Erik, I'm looking a both sets of links now. Good stuff!

For completeness, here's the other hardware I'm look at. Hope this helps someone. I think this will be quite the setup! 1. [Wall mount with ball head](https://www.amazon.com/Security-SERMICLE-Bracket-Outdoor-Rotation/dp/B07BPQS2XG/ref=mp_s_a_1_5?dchild=1&keywords=wall+camera+mount&qid=1625093277&sprefix=wall+camera+&sr=8-5). I wish I could find a right angle mount with out the ball. 2. [POE switch given by Brandon above](https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-switching/products/usw-pro-24) 3. [100ft CAT8 cable](https://www.amazon.com/Ethernet-Outdoor-Connector-Weatherproof-Resistant/dp/B07ZSHDK9L/ref=mp_s_a_1_2_sspa?dchild=1&keywords=power%2Bover%2Bethernet%2Boutdoor%2Bcable&qid=1625094122&sr=8-2-spons&psc=1&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUEyS09GQUJCOEFTSjFZJmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTUzNDM1TDYxS05CWDJCN1E5JmVuY3J5cHRlZEFkSWQ9QTA0NTI2MzUzRDZUQ1lVRjM4VktNJndpZGdldE5hbWU9c3BfcGhvbmVfc2VhcmNoX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1) for each camera.

Hi @"DrewBarfield"#113 , I just realized I linked to the wrong UniFi Switch! I accidentally linked to a non-POE version I think. Checking.

Here's one: https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-switching/products/unifi-enterprise-switch-24-poe

Thanks, @"DrewBarfield"#113 , And here is a slightly-less-expensive POE variant, 24-ports with 250W POE (which is way more than enough; OAK-D-POE is under 6.5W per device), US-24-250W: [https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFi-Switch-Managed-US-24-250W/dp/B00OJZUQ24](https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-UniFi-Switch-Managed-US-24-250W/dp/B00OJZUQ24) (It's also available from Ubiquiti directly, [here](https://store.ui.com/collections/unifi-network-switching/products/unifiswitch-24-250w), but appears to be out of stock there at the time of writing this.) And thanks for the complete list (will share my own complete version in a follow-up post, but for now, some notes). On that cable - often these all-in-one cables with the larger rubber sheeths do not fit into the IP67 glands - as the IP67 glands are designed for "Pro" installs - which usually means cables that are made on-site. So while you can use them with the device, it might not fit in the IP67 boot - resulting in not being able to use the IP67 boot - and thereby preventing the device from being sealed/waterproof. So what I'd recommend actually is something like TOUGHCable PRO, [here](https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-Networks-TOUGHCable-Shielded-Ethernet/dp/B008L143VW) with the connectors [here](https://www.amazon.com/Ubiquiti-TOUGHCable-RJ45-Connectors-Piece/dp/B009XE6JY0/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=tough+connector&qid=1625096134&s=electronics&sr=1-3). This allows you to make any length cable you need for the install. So if you do want pre-made cables, I'd recommend something like the Monoprice ZEROboot: [https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13174&gclid=CjwKCAjwrPCGBhALEiwAUl9X0zPHFQvhCCCrgNlE-YjdGpgsar3Sey2ZM3G6JiU_akbKiaTVjGappxoC9CAQAvD_BwE](https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=13174&gclid=CjwKCAjwrPCGBhALEiwAUl9X0zPHFQvhCCCrgNlE-YjdGpgsar3Sey2ZM3G6JiU_akbKiaTVjGappxoC9CAQAvD_BwE) Note that this is not shielded though, so would be recommended for indoor-use only. I can't seem to find a no-boot shielded, pre-made cable. And to be clear - some boots will actually fit inside the IP67 gland, but it often requires testing to find out which ones do (as in most IP67 applications a custom-length cable is made which then does not have a boot). Thoughts? Thanks, Brandon

Deploying/maintaining a fleet of OAK-D cameras

DrewBarfield

My homework is cut out for me. I'll post what I find. I have need for only two outdoor cameras ... though that should probably be more. I would like for all of the cables to be waterproof and shielded even indoor. I really need to get a building plan and estimate cable lengths first...

DrewBarfield

@Brandon, do you know the dimensions and mass/weight of the OAK-D-POE and OAK-1-POE (with cases)?

I've looked at depthai-hardware, but don't see that.

Maybe these properties haven't been solidified at this time?

Thank you!

Brandon

Thanks DrewBarfield , yes, standby I'll measure them. In the meantime though, I do know that the fully-packed gift-box weights for these are:

OAK-D-POE in giftbox: 0.446kg
OAK-1-POE in giftbox: 0.421kg

I'll measure the devices alone as well and circle back.

Brandon

OAK-D-POE: 360 grams
OAK-1-POE: 290 grams

DrewBarfield

Thank you @Brandon.

I think there is a market for a plastic or aluminum wall bracket that can hold either camera by the Ethernet port - if the solder connection (et al.) for the port is strong enough for the camera to sit on.

This could really simplify installation.

I'll try to make a drawing of what I'm proposing.

Brandon

Thanks. Yes, this conversation reminded me that we should likely produce a wall-bracket or wall-mount for this. Or an adapter plate for a popular mount.

Speaking of which, I meant to say that the mount that you linked to looks great. I meant to buy some yesterday but forgot, so I'm ordering some now to test out.

Thanks again,
Brandon

DrewBarfield

@Brandon / @erik,

I hope this makes some sense. The image did not come out exactly as planned. However, it should convey the basic idea. The back plate screws to a wall stud. A hole must be drilled into the wall for the female Ethernet connector and cable. The camera sits on the male connector and a screw can be threaded into the ISO 1222:2010 camera threaded bore.

Brandon

Thanks @DrewBarfield . I think I get it. One thing to note is the RJ45 is up/inside the OAK-D-POE so that would need to be taken into account. And in this use-case do you need th OAK-D-POE to be adjustable in azimuth/elevation angle?

Thanks,
Brandon

DrewBarfield

For my use case I would only need the camera to be normal to the wall with no need to turn. I'll be mounting them at an approximate 5ft. height.

Brandon

Thanks. What do you think about this sort of mount? This is what we are concepting internally right now:

DrewBarfield

Looks good. What's the red thing in the middle? Reminds me of an optical connection (that would be really cool).

erik

Hello DrewBarfield, it's the 1/4-20 screw hole. And on the acrylic domes - I am unsure, Brandon might have an answer for that.

DrewBarfield

Oh, yeah. I've been meaning to ask: Do acrylic domes have any negative effect on these cameras? Any chance they could increase false positives, reflections, etc.

Amazon link

Brandon

Yes, I'm unsure on the dome. Probably would need to be tested.

Here's an updated mounting concept, to allow pole-mount as well w/ zip ties or hose clamps:

This then allows mounting to VESA mounts (e.g. for monitors) so there are a bunch of options for articulation/etc.

Thoughts?

DrewBarfield

What if the "pole" was horizontal as in the case of a balcony handrail?

The VESA angle is interesting. There are a lot of options. My only concern would be outdoor/weatherproof options.

Brandon

DrewBarfield

Thanks. That's beautiful. Can I visit? I can bring OAK-D-POE in hand. ;-)

So I'm thinking for horizontal pole that then VESA or something similar would have to be used in addition to this. Say for example a mount like this that can be wall, vertical-pole, or horizontal-pole mounted:

https://www.arcantenna.com/products/rfmax-hdmnt100mm-heavy-duty-100mm-vesa-wall-pole-mount-bracket-for-rfid-panel-antenna-tv-lcd-monitor-display?currency=USD&variant=32297140289667&utm_medium=cpc&utm_source=google&utm_campaign=Google%20Shopping&gclid=Cj0KCQjw8vqGBhC_ARIsADMSd1DNVpPC5YVSlfYtWyh_EYqow00mQSgQt08yFKLLa5BipJDPzCUmYmwaAlgAEALw_wcB

That said, let me discuss with the mechanical engineer to see if we can easily allow horizontal pole mount as well.

Thanks,
Brandon

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